Dallas-Fort Worth Real Estate Investor Club

Multi-Family Cap Rates

  • 03 Jun 2016 3:34 PM
    Message # 4056641

    Hi all,


    I know many use Cap Rate as a valuation for multi families. But I also know often Cap rate can be easily skewed dependent upon what expenses are reported in the numbers. Since many of the numbers can fluctuate depending upon the individual (self management, insurance cost, repair actuals vs. capital improvements) I thought I would take a pulse from those with experience. 


    I was curious:

    1) What is the average Cap rate many of you see around our area

    2) What numbers you expect in Cap rates when you search and when you are doing the marketing


  • 16 Jun 2016 6:14 PM
    Reply # 4079580 on 4056641
    Following up - Any insight here?


    Best,

    Chris

  • 17 Jun 2016 6:55 AM
    Reply # 4080705 on 4056641

    Hi Chris,


    From what I've seen, this forum is mostly geared toward 1-4 family investors.  Most people don't use a cap rate evaluation when considering these properties unless they are taking part in bulk package purchases.


    Cap rates are also highly dependent on the location and asset class (A, B, C, D).  From what I've seen recently the average cap rate for multifamily is between 7-8 for class B properties in our area.  Class A is in the 5-6 range with some around 4.  There are also differences between the cap rates in Dallas and Fort Worth.  It seems that cap rates in most major metros are being compressed due to the high demand and low inventory available.


    I'm no exert on this stuff but I hope this helps a little bit.  Feel free to reach out if you want to chat about it more.  My email is LenzCapitalLLC@yahoo.com.


    -Brian

  • 22 Jun 2016 2:36 PM
    Reply # 4091977 on 4056641

    Hi Brian,


    Thanks for the information! And I apologize all my info was not quite clear.


    Specifically, I was looking for insight to the Tarrant County area smaller multi families (Duplex, Triplex, Fourplex). I was thinking the cap rates for a B-C property would be in the 8-10% mark and was hoping to get any insight from more experienced investors if Cap Rate was normally the benchmark for these type of properties. 


    Best,

    Chris

  • 22 Jun 2016 8:04 PM
    Reply # 4092375 on 4056641
      Though, mathematically, you can determine cap rates on residential properties (single family home, duplex, triplex, and fourplex), a cap rate is typically used only for commercial multifamily properties (five units and up). One to four unit properties are considered residential, not commercial, and are valued, largely, on comparative properties recently sold in their area (comps). This can make it difficult to properly value a duplex, triplex, or fourplex unless there are others in the area. If that's the case, you can look at profit analyses and such to help make a decision, but most lenders will still look for comps if the property will be used to collateralize a loan.
  • 28 Jun 2016 6:05 PM
    Reply # 4106527 on 4056641

    Thanks Dwayne - I guess I hadn't realized that under 4 units was not really considered multi family. Thanks for the help. I guess now I get to have the fun of trying to value this thing :)

  • 28 Jun 2016 11:26 PM
    Reply # 4106734 on 4056641

      I hear a lot of people use the term "multifamily" interchangeably between residential and commercial properties, and correctly so, I suppose. I like to use the terms "residential multifamily" and "commercial multifamily" though to distinguish between the two since five or more units is a whole different game with different considerations, variables, processes, etc.

      Triplexes seem to be the odd ball, but duplexes and fourplexes are often times located in neighborhoods with multiple others of that property type. If there are not any comps, check with some lenders about what they would value the property at, and how they would come to that number. Depending on your goals, if the property cashflows significantly enough, you may be okay if you end up buying it at a higher than ideal amount; like if the seller's asking more than a lender says it's worth. (Not saying to buy it overpriced, just saying than higher cashflow can give you more wiggle room.) If the loan will be in your personal name, a traditional lender will probably put more weight on the value of the structure and land than on cashflow being generated. Unless you buy it with private/hard money, get it into your name, have it cashflow for x amount of months, then a traditional lender will be able to count the cashflow into your income and use that figure in refinancing it. In which case, depending on credit, appraisals, and such, they may or may not lend via mortgage the full amount to pay off the existing loan, but with that income being countable, it may open up some other options. Maybe a personal loan or line of credit you can use to pay the original loan down enough for the mortgage to cover it.

      Hope what you're looking at is a good deal and you're able to get it. Keep us posted with what happens.

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