Dallas-Fort Worth Real Estate Investor Club

Than Merrill's real estate investing class

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  • 29 Mar 2016 7:09 AM
    Reply # 3916226 on 3614671

    If it is free and you are attending to get started, go and as the saying goes, leave your checkbook at home.  Meet some people and start building your contact list.  If you are looking for a good class to help you in your real estate investing, take Robin and Cindy's wholesale class next month.

    Last modified: 29 Mar 2016 7:46 AM | Robin Carriger (Administrator)
  • 29 Mar 2016 8:03 AM
    Reply # 3916274 on 3614671
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    I agree with Bruce. If you are just getting started or have been involved in Real Estate investing. You will most likely learn something, and they are a good place to network and meet new people. Leave the check book AND CREDIT CARDS at home. If you must give your money to someone, find a smaller network that is local where people are actually doing "work" in the area you want to invest in. Try to find a local investor you can help and figure out how you can help them. I don't really endorse any particular class or person.

    Good luck in your real estate investing.

    Last modified: 29 Mar 2016 8:05 AM | Deleted user
  • 29 Mar 2016 9:40 AM
    Reply # 3916560 on 3614671
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    Hi Cynthia!

    IMNSHO, Than's classes are no better or worse than any other "national guru's." I suggest you follow the advice given on this forum (do your research, know what you are getting into before you go, only go to the free courses, leave your checkbook at home) and take from them what you can. 

    But also listen to where Robin is coming from, if not exactly how he got here (spending $30,000+ on education before doing a deal - but then he did LOTs of them). 

    Everyone in this business needs education. You can buy it. You can earn it. You can partner with it. How you choose to acquire it is up to you. But whatever path you choose, I counsel folks to "be smart." 

    If you buy it, don't pay "retail." I have yet to see any "home study course" or "boot camp" I thought was worth several thousand dollars. Much less those absurd "mastermind" groups that range from $10,000-50,000+ per year. 

    The good news is you don't have to pay those prices. In every city in America there are local investors who will teach you the specifics of what works in your market, right now, for a few HUNDRED dollars per course, or less. And in case you are the kind of person who can't resist the siren-song of glitzy ex-TV-realty-stars-turned-Real-Estate-Guru; fine, hunt around the Internet and buy a used course for 1-10% of what it originally sold for (I recently bought a $2,500 Home Study Course for $99 + shipping. Only 2 of the 5 sections had even been opened.).

    If you earn it, be smart and proceed cautiously. The main goals of your first deal if you go this route ought to be 1) learning the business, and THEN  2) making some money. Rocky makes a fabulous point (which he routinely does) about spending your money actually doing a deal. I used to teach my students the following: The average "Rehab Bootcamp" is about 4 days long, and usually held in some fun, exotic location (Vegas). It also usually costs $4,999 + expenses (about $6-9K depending on how much you eat, drink and party). When you are finished you have been exposed to some varying amount of what you will need to know to do a deal. BUT YOU STILL HAVE NOT DONE A DEAL. Instead, go buy a house, rehab it, sell it, and if you lose less than $6-9K you are still better off than if you'd gone to a boot camp BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOW DONE A REAL DEAL (and you are probably NOT going to lose $6-9K, especially if you get advice and help from your DFW REI Club friends.).

    The 3rd choice can be your best, or your worst option. I have seen MANY new investors find great REI partners who are willing to teach them the business in exchange for a disproportionately high percentage of the profits on the first few deals. I have also seen many new investors lose their life savings to less-than-reputable "seasoned" investors (Ask yourself and them "If you are such a fabulous investor, why do you need all my money?"). If you go the "partner" route, make sure you have good documentation in place (contracts), as well as both of you having "skin in the game."

    Regardless of what route or which expert advice you choose, continue going to Robin & Cindy's club. Frankly, if you did nothing except attend all 50 meetings in a year you would be well on your way to being fully trained.

    And finally, when you have an opportunity to take high quality local training at rock bottom prices, jump on it. Robin and I worked for years to develop a teaching system that would quickly, accurately, and affordably teach new investors what they needed in order to succeed in this business. His Wholesale Class was the first step in that system. Take it if there are still spots available. It's the best $200 you'll ever spend in this business.

    If there is anything else I can do to help you grow your business, please let me know.

    Very Best,

    -Greg

    Greg Wilson

    The REI Mentor

  • 29 Mar 2016 7:06 PM
    Reply # 3917702 on 3614671
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    I learned this business 99% from doing my own research... Internet searching, YouTube videos, and networking w/ other experts... My marketing niche came from chatting up a few outside the box thinkers who knew nothing about real estate (so they didn't have any preconceive notions on RE marketing) and came up w/ some really bizarre ideas...some really bad and others brilliant.... 

    That said, some of my early lost opportunities could have been avoided if I would have had more education, however those misses were vital to my learning and personal growth.... I think that you can be successful w/o the 10's of thousands of dollars spent on experts if you maximize your time and free/inexpensive resources that are at your fingertips.... One thing that I keep in mind: a small % of people are ever successful in REI for whatever reason, but 100% of the experts who charge $30k get $30k...  Thoughts? 

    Brian R. Baker, MBA

  • 05 Apr 2016 6:48 PM
    Reply # 3930965 on 3614671
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    Hi Cynthia,

    I think you opened up a flood gate with your topic for sure.  I'm of the opinion that educational Guru's are a matter of personal choice.  Afterall, we are in an information society.  Some information is free, such as what Brain Baker pointed out.  Some information is very expensive and could be worth every penny it costs you.   I think if I were to do this biz all over again, I'd stick to the local wise people and save my thousands of dollars to buy more properties.

    I spent thousands of dollars early on, and I don't regret it, but I also know I can go to a local REIA group, like this one which is a very good one, to get the education I need to be successful.  If you are drawn in by the hype of Than Merrill, then you should just go to the Free part of it and judge it yourself.  But beware, they are very good sales people and they are in the business of selling educational information.  As long as you know that up front, you will be able to decide for yourself if it's worth what they are charging.

    In the meantime, I used to go to the local library and check out every single book that they had on the topic of Real Estate.  Believe it or not, you can get a lot of good books on various RE topics there.  Plus, I have a Kindle and there are free books through Amazon on Real Estate.  And if you are interested in what Than Merrill has to offer, you could just buy his book off of Amazon.  

    If you have any questions, feel free to contact me.  

    All the best,

    Stacie Meeker

    214-704-8617



  • 05 Apr 2016 8:02 PM
    Reply # 3931037 on 3614671
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    Stacie, I think you nailed it! A couple of things that I would like to add, when you started I bet that information wasn't quite as readily available as it is now... When I went to college in the mid-90's it was ALL about the library, and study groups.  Now you can literally access anything you want on the Internet... I'm a big YouTube watcher and there are tons of free videos out there. Times are different so utilize the resources that are available.... Take it one step further (keeping w/ the college theme) college tuition continues to go up, I sense that there will be a day where people will opt to "self educate" vs pay 6 figures for a formal education... Harvard even posts many of their lectures (via "open learning") online for free.... 

    Brian R. Baker, MBA

  • 06 Apr 2016 11:42 AM
    Reply # 3932237 on 3614671

    I attended Than Merrills free seminar and also the three day workshop. I think the three day was worth the $200.00 I spent on it. It was very informative and I learned alot. That being said there was no-way I was going to shell out the $33,000.00 +/- they wanted for the full course. That's why I came here. I would rather learn from experts in my local market who know how to invest here. Than is in California where the environment is entirely different than here.

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